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plans for WASM?

25 Feb 2017, 11:20

I have just discovered your technology and I was wondering whether you had plans for an integration of it with Web Assembly (WASM)?
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Re: plans for WASM?

25 Feb 2017, 11:27

We experimented a bit with HTML5 + WebGL during the 1.3 development but finally decided to leave this platform out. This is something we want to retake for future versions, including WASM.
 
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Re: plans for WASM?

25 Feb 2017, 11:55

Thanks for your quick answer.
I plan to closely follow the evolution of your neat technology.
 
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Re: plans for WASM?

25 Feb 2017, 12:03

Thanks Philippe, just let us know if you want to evaluate NoesisGUI.
 
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Re: plans for WASM?

28 Feb 2017, 10:41

Thinking more about it, an XAML engine like yours for WASM would be _huge_ in that it would pave the way to a new Silverlight fullfilling the initial 'WPF/Everywhere' promise,
and even to a 'Flash rebirth' without its flaws: the need for a plugin, no presence in iOS ...; among other benefits: my 2 cents :-)
 
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Re: plans for WASM?

28 Feb 2017, 11:40

Thinking more about it, an XAML engine like yours for WASM would be _huge_ in that it would pave the way to a new Silverlight fullfilling the initial 'WPF/Everywhere' promise,
and even to a 'Flash rebirth' without its flaws: the need for a plugin, no presence in iOS ...; among other benefits: my 2 cents :-)
That's so true! Thought we need to wait for CoreCLR WASM support before that, otherwise without C# it doesn't have so much profit for us. And that still will be a lot of hard work for NoesisGUI team...
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Re: plans for WASM?

28 Feb 2017, 14:08

I was thinking that a UI based on Noesis/WASM could, and should, be 'scriptable' in any WASM capable language,
but also in JavaScript, in the form of JS ViewModel classes bound to XAML views for example...

Anyway, I wish the Noesis team all the best: the possibilities opened by WASM and your technology are very exciting!
 
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Re: plans for WASM?

03 Mar 2017, 06:04

The scary thing here is exposing all the API from C++ to JS. We already did it with C#, and it is being really painful using SWIG. We would like to find time to try a different approach using LLVM (it wasn't so popular when we started this part in Noesis)
 
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Re: plans for WASM?

03 Mar 2017, 07:35

You could try bridge.net or jsil.org (.NET to Javascript compiler) maybe for part or most of the code. Not sure how useful it would be.
 
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Re: plans for WASM?

03 Mar 2017, 12:10

Wouldn't one way to go ahead with this be to just use native C++ and emscripten plus webgl? And compile that to asm.js and wasm in the future? This is how Unreal 3 was ported in 4 days.

A nice tutorial that shows how easy this is:
http://www.learnopengles.com/calling-op ... d-and-ios/

Or maybe one could modify the plugin for unity to support webgl
https://blogs.unity3d.com/2017/01/19/lo ... ity-webgl/

I think unity compiles C# to C++ and then uses emscripten to create asm.js, so if I'm correct this would allow using C# code too.

Of course the devil is in the infinite number of details ;-)
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